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Offline Mount51

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Stop calling it an assault rifle. Call it what it is...
« on: December 22, 2012, 12:13:23 AM »
I'm getting tired of the talking heads saying,"why do people need assault rifles?". Then they filibuster while pro gun people try to answer intelligently. I was watching Prissy Morgan on CNN to see what he was saying.  His panel was saying the 2nd ammendment was written during the time of muskets that took a long time to reload and missed alot.  I don't remember reading that we have the right to keep and bear muskets.

  Primarily we have these guns because they are fun to shoot.  They provide high power defense for the home and they are similar to what the military uses.  I say we start flooding the network with a new name.  Call it what it is, a Militia rifle.

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Re: Stop calling it an assault rifle. Call it what it is...
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 12:23:45 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 12:29:00 AM »
That's flipping hilarious.

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Re: Stop calling it an assault rifle. Call it what it is...
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 12:54:20 AM »
Actually, call it simply that: A rifle. Semi-Automatic if you want, but it's basically a rifle for Christ's sake, militia be d***ed (you can use ANY rifle in a Militia)!

It's so funny that you would mention assault rifles and semi-automatics and what not. Recently, I just got into an argument with someone on Facebook about it the other day. Someone posted this on Fb and started a comment civil war about it:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/16060_551269721567248_1704859737_n.jpg

His argument was that semi-automatic weapons have no place in civilian hands because of the danger they pose to the public -- and that he knew all hunters in the state of Colorado would agree with him too, because he had several friends that hunt/own guns and they agree Semi-Automatic weapons are evil.

LONG story short (About 50 posts of rage, flaming, and in my case, complete and unflinching trolling by the actual true definition) he continued to brush off all my arguments like Mount51 said. He claimed he was not for gun control, but against semi-automatic firearms, and ignored our attempts to make him see light, until I showed him this video:

The Truth About Semi-Auto Firearms

....It turns out the whole time he had NO idea that the term "Semi-Automatic" meant one round per trigger pull. He thought it meant FULLY automatic (dumping the whole magazine on one trigger pull). In fact, several others I've spoken to over the years have gradually come to associate the term "select-fire fully automatic" with "Semi-Automatic" because a semi-automatic is apparently automatic part of the time (when you switch firing modes). It's no wonder three quarters of the American people have been brainwashed into thinking AR-15's and AK-47's are so bad; the stupid pesky-lefty controlled media and their buzz words and yellow journalism have successfully brainwashed the American people into believing that tripe!

I actually watched that video several years ago when I was still relatively new to guns myself, and even then it struck me as particularly good on the subject of AR-15's and AK-47's. I've kept it to show the uninformed when I encounter them, and have so far had a near 100% success rate in making them understand the difference.

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2012, 09:17:07 AM »

That's too funny. Original intention arguments always sound a lot like chuck Norris vs Bruce lee arguments to me.

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Stop calling it an assault rifle. Call it what it is...
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2012, 09:20:08 AM »
Oh man, this has been a pet peeve of mine for years. The use of term "assault weapon". I mean if I was to use the old joke about tearing someone arm off and beat them over the head with it, couldn't that too be considered an assault weapon. But unfortunately when congress passed the first ban under Clinton it became a legal term that has found it way into history. 
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Re: Stop calling it an assault rifle. Call it what it is...
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2012, 09:30:42 AM »
i dont think there's anything wrong with the term "assault rifle" - it is what it is

i think the focus should be on the fact that gun owners have been collecting/shooting military style weapons forever

M1 Garands are still in high demand.......I own one as well as a Springfield 1903 A3

we buy these because it's a piece of military history

they're fun to shoot - but getting cute with names - or trying to convince the anti-gun lots that it's something it isnt - wont work

it would be more fruitful (in my opinion) to educate them on the history of military style gun ownership

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Re: Stop calling it an assault rifle. Call it what it is...
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2012, 09:48:32 AM »
I like the NSSF's term "modern sporting rifle" but agree with Bob, they are indeed military style rifles as have been popular with civilians forever, once the military rifles became heavily restricted by the "Gun Control Act(s)" they became available in neutered form which is what most of us are able to buy instead of the actual military versions.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2012, 10:06:41 PM »
A lot of liberals think that AR means "assult rifle" which is one of those facts that no ever calls the media out on.  AR = Armalite.

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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2012, 10:10:03 PM »
A lot of liberals think that AR means "assult rifle" which is one of those facts that no ever calls the media out on.  AR = Armalite.

if you're making a joke - haha

if you're not - you're wrong

AR DOES mean assault rifle

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2012, 10:14:39 PM »
A lot of liberals think that AR means "assult rifle" which is one of those facts that no ever calls the media out on.  AR = Armalite.

if you're making a joke - haha

if you're not - you're wrong

AR DOES mean assault rifle

No it means Armalite Rifle:

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The "AR" in AR-15 comes from the ArmaLite name. ArmaLite's AR-1, AR-5, and some subsequent models were bolt action rifles, the AR-7 a semiautomatic survival rifle and there are shotguns and pistols whose model numbers include the "AR" prefix.

http://www.armalite.com/images/Library/AL%20HISTORY%20COPY%202.pdf
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2012, 10:26:19 PM »
Lmfao.

I remembered reading that somewhere, but couldn't put my finger on it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2012, 10:35:56 PM »
In before magazine vs clip argument *hides*

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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2012, 11:30:16 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2012, 08:22:46 AM »
A lot of liberals think that AR means "assult rifle" which is one of those facts that no ever calls the media out on.  AR = Armalite.

Well what do you expect when everyone calls them ARs, even us gun nuts? Whether it's an Armalite, a Colt or a Larue or a Bushmaster, we all still call them ARs. I'm sure you do it too.

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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2012, 08:35:03 AM »
You can call them what ever you want, my point is if no one stops or make an attempt to correct the media and liberals from these types of "word mistakes" then we've already lost the fight,

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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2012, 08:47:06 AM »
Why would it need correction if that's the terminology that we gun owners and gun nuts use?

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Re: Stop calling it an assault rifle. Call it what it is...
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2012, 08:53:27 AM »
A lot of liberals think that AR means "assult rifle" which is one of those facts that no ever calls the media out on.  AR = Armalite.

Well what do you expect when everyone calls them ARs, even us gun nuts? Whether it's an Armalite, a Colt or a Larue or a Bushmaster, we all still call them ARs. I'm sure you do it too.

They are called AR's because they are all based on the AR-15 so "we" aren't referring to them as "Assault Rifles" in spite of the fact that many have been convinced that we are thanks to anti-gun politicians and media defining the meme once again.
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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2012, 10:14:21 AM »
I call mine a "Evil Killing Machine" and I call my mags "Endless Bullet Factory Clips". 

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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2012, 02:27:28 PM »
I remember reading an argument on the subject on another forum.

Consequently, someone who made a very strong case towards avoiding the shock-terms news media use, swayed me to use the term "Firearm" instead of "weapon" when and wherever possible. The more and more I've looked at news reports over the years since, the more I see that the lefties are indeed use "weapon" as a buzz term to scare people (right along with "High Power Assault Rifle"), confirming his assertion.

It really isn't a "weapon" unless you consider paper targets and dirt backstops human beings now, you turkeys! :th_thicon_lol: