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No 9mm for CHL classes?
« on: January 26, 2013, 03:12:58 PM »
I have been thinking about taking a concealed carry class to get a permit and buying a handgun for concealed carry.  Have been looking at different calibers, etc.   Someone told me not to consider 9mm as that caliber could not even be used as a qualifying caliber in a concealed carry class.   I can't really find anywhere where it tells that 9mm cannot be used.   Is this true?  And why is it not allowed?

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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2013, 03:24:04 PM »
Untrue. Minimum caliber for TX CHL is .32

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No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2013, 03:38:11 PM »
9mm is pretty much what I would call the STANDARD for CC and HD. Plenty of people use smaller and larger, but I'd bet 9mm is the majority by far. Whoever told you that is A - misinformed, and B - crazy not to consider 9mm as a great self defense caliber.

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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2013, 03:39:31 PM »
Thanks for the info.  I thought that sounded kinda strange.

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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2013, 03:40:54 PM »
I have used the same 9mm  in class sence 1995

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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2013, 03:44:06 PM »
As Adam posted, anything at least .32 caliber is usable for the Texas CHL qualification.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/internetforms/forms/chl-16.pdf
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411.188. HANDGUN PROFICIENCY REQUIREMENT. (a) The
director by rule shall establish minimum standards for handgun
proficiency and shall develop a course to teach handgun proficiency and
examinations to measure handgun proficiency. The course to teach
handgun proficiency must contain training sessions divided into two
parts. One part of the course must be classroom instruction and the
other part must be range instruction and an actual demonstration by the
applicant of the applicant's ability to safely and pr oficiently use the
applicable category of handgun. An applicant must be able to
demonstrate, at a minimum, the degree of proficiency that is required to
effectively operate a handgun of .32 caliber or above.
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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2013, 03:45:03 PM »
Just to be clear though, the minimum of .32 caliber is only for the qualification and does not in any way apply to what you carry once you have your CHL.
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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2013, 04:34:45 PM »
IF you can find 9mm ammo!!!!!!!
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No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2013, 05:37:56 PM »
No doubt. None in Waco unless you want to over pay for JHPs. All the FMJs 40 I can find are priced the same as JHPs as well. Except for Walmart, when you get lucky.
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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 07:01:52 PM »
I used a 9mm to qualify.

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Re: Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2013, 01:20:14 AM »
As Adam posted, anything at least .32 caliber is usable for the Texas CHL qualification.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/internetforms/forms/chl-16.pdf [nofollow]
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411.188. HANDGUN PROFICIENCY REQUIREMENT. (a) The
director by rule shall establish minimum standards for handgun
proficiency and shall develop a course to teach handgun proficiency and
examinations to measure handgun proficiency. The course to teach
handgun proficiency must contain training sessions divided into two
parts. One part of the course must be classroom instruction and the
other part must be range instruction and an actual demonstration by the
applicant of the applicant's ability to safely and pr oficiently use the
applicable category of handgun. An applicant must be able to
demonstrate, at a minimum, the degree of proficiency that is required to
effectively operate a handgun of .32 caliber or above.

This is true, but I was told by a certain place that it had to be larger than 9mm...I know the law, but maybe different places can make their own rules? Not sure about that though, plus I didnt like the person I spoke to at that facility...

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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2013, 09:40:29 AM »
I did also took my CHL class with my 9mm Glock 19, and as others have already said the requirement is .32 caliber or above.  Bear in mind though that if you want to be licensed for both SA and Revolver you have to pass the class with a SA. 

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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2013, 10:18:23 AM »
This is true, but I was told by a certain place that it had to be larger than 9mm...I know the law, but maybe different places can make their own rules? Not sure about that though, plus I didnt like the person I spoke to at that facility...

If it was a class for Texas CHL permit, they cannot make up their own rules and should be reported to the DPS.
Either they are too stupid to know the rules or they are just trying to make sure that all the brass left over is to their liking.
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Re: Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2013, 11:40:41 AM »
This is true, but I was told by a certain place that it had to be larger than 9mm...I know the law, but maybe different places can make their own rules? Not sure about that though, plus I didnt like the person I spoke to at that facility...

If it was a class for Texas CHL permit, they cannot make up their own rules and should be reported to the DPS.
Either they are too stupid to know the rules or they are just trying to make sure that all the brass left over is to their liking.

Yeah I figured that much...just one more place to stay away from...plus I found a place thats cheaper anyway...

Which leads me to ask, whats everyone paying for the class?

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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2013, 11:53:30 AM »
The owner of this forum does CHL classes: http://houstongunclass.com/
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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2013, 09:31:44 AM »
Has any one used a .32 for your test?. My better half carried  a .25 in her truck when she had a problem with some "people" were giving he trouble on her way to work. Cell phone coverage sucked in that area and their was no concealed carry back then. She could have hit a car with, or just for scare porpoises. Gun was only accurate to about 10 yards and not very good at all no matter who shot it. She has a Beretta Tomcat-32 she could use.

She has shot a lot of pistols but .44 Magumin  A .45 APC 1911 was ok, but she would not want to carry that.
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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2013, 11:36:59 AM »
My CHL class was a hundred bucks and included a chicken fried steak lunch.
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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2013, 11:49:30 AM »
Good luck FINDING 9mm for a CHL class  :th_thicon_lol:

I've had my permit since 1996. I didn't have to take the class this past time, but I've taken it previously many other times.

In the past, I've seen many elderly people take the class with tiny 380s or 32s... Each and every one of these people had jamming problems, and were always pulled for unsafe behavior - sweeping the gun to the side while trying to get the gun work.

I'd never take a CHL class with a tiny 32 or 380, personally. Wanna carry it - fine. But, i the past, I've always used a 45 caliber 1911 or a 9mm handgun

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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2013, 12:42:15 PM »
Took mine with my Bersa Thunder 380 and it was perfect ;)
For renewal in a few years I'll probably use a 9mm though.
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Re: No 9mm for CHL classes?
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2013, 01:10:32 PM »
Well, I was talking about guns the size of something like the Colt Pony/Mustang or so...